Thursday, November 12, 2009

Post #12: Responses to First Day of Presentations

For your new blog response, write a response to one of the presentations you heard in class today. You can pose one or more follow-up questions (especially because we were too rushed to allow you all to voice your questions today), offer potential counterarguments (like Esther's follow-up question today), make connections to other things you've seen or read, or pose further lines of inquiry for any of these projects.

Due: Before our next class meeting

19 comments:

  1. To Adam's Presentation: First off nice presentation, I really found your topic interesting. Now, is racism in comics only found in American comics or is there racism in foreign comics as well? ex) Japanese, French, ect.

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  2. For Adam's Presentation, great job, had my attention the whole time, and valid arguments were presented. My question to you is, "Is racism in comics or tv present today or are the jokes and stereotypes just there to get laughs?.. Like the jokes we saw in family guy, do you think the producers, directors etc are actually racist?, or is it just common stereotypes that are used because we laugh at them?..if the second part is true, should that still be ok and is it morally right?

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  3. For Adam's presentation: First I wanted to mention you kept my attn throughout your presentation. great use of videos and detail related to topic. I saw lots of relation to past stereotypes still being used in todays comics. I am curious to know if you feel this kind of media perpetuates current issues of racism? Does it spill over and into mainstream society? Do you feel this form of media(comics)effects the people in a negative way? Do you feel comics today should be held to a higher standard when portraying characters? Help squash racism? Should comics draw more realistic(lifelike) characters, so hopefully less(no) racism is projected? Adam, what are your personal views of these issues?

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  4. adam, your opinion and the opinion of the sources you used on racism towards african americans in comics seems to be oversensitive. all superheroes have some sort of flaw which ends up causing them to be great. so its just not black superheroes that have major flaws. but other than that good job on the presentation.

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  5. In response to Justin's essay I thought he presented well and had alot of good sources of evidence to support his thesis of the effects of immorality and loss of values and the negative effect they can have by being portrayed without having a rating system to inform what the reader is about to read. My question is can it be just more than comics that can impact a young mind with seeing offensive material of crime, sex, and violence? Can't those inlfuences also come from movies/tv/music and so on?

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  6. For Sammis presentation, i thought you did a good job presenting and had clear main points, with information to back it uop and your paper was easy to follow as well. My question is can comics be a teaching tool in every grade level, and is there a grade or age when comics are more effective?

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  7. In response to Justin's presentation. Other than what Wertham says about comics and your graph. Did you find anything, like studies, that says violent comics can have a severe impact on children? Or anything that says that they don't?

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  8. Nathaniel's Presentation
    I think you referred to your own personal life too much, for example, how your father let you read the paper, either to teach you or keep you busy. As interesting as that may have been, i don't think a research paper should talk about the writer whatsoever, though it is a good example of a child reading a newspaper comic....
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    I know that a lot of the comics nowadays are very inappropriate for children, but do you really think kids comprehend what is being said? I know that they can't distinguish right and wrong at a young age, but since they can't comprehend, does it really matter? Since i personally don't think a child could grasp such a deep message, i see nothing wrong with an adolescent enjoying some pictures with a cute tiger and child.

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  9. To Adam's Presentation: I feel that your presentation proved some good points about the image of black people in comics. However, white superheros also came from bad backgrounds and had flaws just like black ones. It seems that comics in general, make their superheroes, both white and black, have flaws that are there only to add to the story of the comic itself. Family Guy, on the other hand contains no superheroes and is just straight up racist.

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  10. To Justin's presentation: The graph suggests that over the years and more sexual content is presented in comics, the earlier couples get married? ? Was I incorrect in that it only represented the effect of comics, or does it mean sexuality in all media. If it is in all media, wouldn't couples be marrying even earlier with today's sexuality heavy media? Are there more studies that conclude the same thing?

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  11. to adam: that presentation was hilarious with those videos, i dont think ive laughed that much at a presentation before but other than that....i dont think there is much stereotyping with black superheroes according to the common point adam had about their backgrounds, to me...all superheroes come from a bad background, thats why they become superheroes in the first place for example batman, superman, spiderman, blade, storm, the hulk and many others, most of the white guy superheroes come from bad hoods too, but yeah... other than that, that was probably the most enjoyable presentation ive heard

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  12. to Sami: I think your presentation was really well done. it had a lot of good information to support your thesis, and your topic was interesting.
    My question would be, would using comics and text simultaneously take away from teaching to the students?

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  13. For Justin, i thought you posed a very good stance on the issue of comic book ratings and it was a very compelling argument. One thing I would like to ask is a little more explanation on the statement you made regarding the influence of violence and sexuality on comics. You stated that children can grow up to become things like rapists and murderers, but do enough people even read comic books for this influence to even be felt?

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  14. Adams Presentation:

    I liked your presentation, its similiar to mine, its about racism in comics but not as specific about a certain race as yours! It was very detailed.

    Do you think that American Comic Illustrators are consciously include more diverse characters in an attempt to prove themselves not racist?


    For instance in one of your examples green lantern is now being suceeded by a black character now, yet the first to generations were white male leads.

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  15. Joy's presentation:
    I enjoyed listneing to your essay because I liked how you tied in the Calvin and Hobbes comic with the desires and emotions that adults go through. My follow up question would be:If children were to read Calvin and Hobbes growing up, do you think that as adults they would show less characteristics of the id, assuming they understood that Calvin is really selfish and self-centered? Or do you think that adults would admire this type of behavior and act like Calvin?

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  16. Sami's presentation was great because it had a clear focus and the main points that supported his argument were clearly presented one by one and were easy to identify. He used the evidences very effectively.
    In response to your topic, what do you think are the drawbacks of using comics as teaching material? Also, do you know of certain schools that actually use comics in the classroom today?

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  17. I'm not fully convinced by Justin's essay. The book publishing industry doesn't have a rating systems and seems to get along fine without it. Having a ratings system tends to lead to censorship, either outright by the government or self-censorship by the companies themselves. For example, Walmart refuses to carry any film with an NC rating even though lots of adults obviously shop at their stores. If comics must have a ratings system then they should take a leaf from the music industry and use a 'Parental Advisory' sticker. I think content advisory ratings are better than age ratings because they recognize that age is no concrete determinant of maturity. A 'parental advisory' sticker would prompt the child's guardians to examine the comic first and, if necessary, to provide a proper context to the child for what he/she is about to experience. After all, many people in other cultures read violent and/or sex filled comics at a young age and yet grow up to be decent human beings. They key difference is they were taught social responsible ways to interpret and respond to those materials.           

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  18. Sami: Your presentation is kind of similar to mine, about comics and education. Good job on the presentation and on the argument. My question is: can't movies do the same job? Movies seem to be able to do the same for the classroom what comics can do, so are comics really that great of an addition? Expanding the argument to include all visual media would solve this of course, which was above and beyond the prompt of the essay, but a comparison between movies and comics would make a stronger case for comics.

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  19. I have to say that Justin's presentation stood out to me the most. He presented really well, and he seemed like he knew what he was talking about. He also seemed very interested in his topic which made it easier to listen. He had a great counterarguement, and he had great focus throughout the whole paper. The question i have are even movies that are rated, they still cause children the same way, so why would it be different if all comics were rated?

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